I Didn’t Get Paid For My Sick Day!

I took a sick day on Friday Feb 10.  My employer deducted a day of salary!  I’m pretty sure I get sick time and vacation time.  I’ve already worked enough days in 2012 to accrue at least one prorated day.

It can’t be a mistake.  They had to manually enter it into the payroll system.  What a bunch of cheap bastards.  They’re already way underpaying me.  I guess it’s time to start sending out resumes.

10 Responses to I Didn’t Get Paid For My Sick Day!

  1. A stable job with an acceptable salary is worth more than an unstable job with a higher salary. Or a job with a manager that drives you mad. Or back-stabbing co-workers. Or idiot co-workers that destroy every software project they touch.


    I’ve had jobs where at the absolute minimum I’ve worked 50 hour weeks. Quite often working 55 – 65 hour weeks.

    Unlike in the USA, back in the days when I was a recent graduate, starting salaries for computers programmers could often be quite low – in fact very low.

    I started programming for a hobby in my teens. I did a very large programming project at university. So when I left university I actually had a lot of programming experience and even published software titles.

    However companies discarded all the experience I got working for myself as they only consider working in company jobs! A lot of employers said they only take on people with 2 – 5 years experience.

    So the only job I could get in a reasonable amount of time was a job paying a low salary. And for a company that boasted they had as customers a huge percentage of investment banks around the world. They had even won Export Awards. Within a few months my manager realized I was actually good at my job and my working week suddenly became a 60 – 65 hour working week. But my salary stayed crap.

    I was a fool. I left to get another job. They said there would be a company pension but they lied. At the time that rankled. They delayed putting my salary up and so I left for yet another job. That was stupid. The company actually got the equivalent of several million dollars as an advance for the work I was doing a huge percentage of. It is stupid when an employee leaves a wealthy company just because the directors are too stupid to pay at least proportional to the hours work. At my second job, I worked at least 10 hours a week more than all the other people I shared an office with. But I actually got paid the least amount of money. Because I was doing an important project, the director in charge of me made it difficult for me to get any vacation time off at all. The guy that sat next to me actually took off more than his allowance of vacations.

    It was really horrible working long, long hours and getting paid crap. So I know what you mean.

    Later on in life, a couple of companies straight out cheated me out of thousands of pounds and dollars (I’ve worked in different countries).

    But do make a properly informed and thought out decision. You may jump ship but your new job will just be lousy in different ways.

    Don’t expect to get everything from work. Get what you want in your evenings and at weekends.

    • It doesn’t hurt to shop around. My current job is nothing special. I’m underpaid by 30%-50%.

      For a direct comparison, my current job is much worse than my previous job. It’s worse in terms of salary, interactions with coworkers, and overall work conditions. This definitely was a step backwards and not forwards, career-wise.

      The vibe I get from my bosses is not “Wow! Mark really knows his stuff! We’re glad to have him around!” It’s pretty clear they don’t respect me.

  2. In previous jobs, I’ve done more work than several co-workers put together. Yet, due to the stupidity of managers only paying similar to your last job, I actually got paid less.

    A summary of my last moan here, is that my previous managers realized I was good at my job and gave me big, important projects that occupied sometimes 60 – 65 hours a week of my time. Yet, when it came to salary they were incredibly slow to fix things. In one instance I was doing a project that the credit card processing quality engineers (they were part of another, rather large, famous company) said usually a whole team would implement. They further added they were acquainted with the fact that single software developers do occasionally write whole systems and when they do the resultant solutions can be very high quality pieces of work.

    So it was very stupid I left that job just because the directors got paid millions but were too stupid to pass anything of that on to me. I was living in an expensive city and was barely making living expenses.

    Actually my work was very respect in my first two jobs. My work was also respected in my third job, although I got fired from that with about 40% of the work-force and the stupid employees were left behind. In political, nasty or stupid companies, good workers aren’t respected.

  3. In my first job, I was contractual promised a pay rise after _x_ months of working there. I was told I was going to get a large pay rise as I was underpaid. Months rolled by and nothing happened. I was told my pay rise would be back-dated. Eventually I got a pay-rise but it was just a token amount. They even messed up back-dating it. I thought why should I bother working weekends and getting my software correct, when the idiots I was working for couldn’t even bother to get back-dated salary properly worked out. I thought of all the weekends I had worked for “free” and they idiots were short-changing me.

    • Sometimes, more nasty political backstabbing occurs in a 10 person company, than in a large corporation.

      For example, the other programmer was the sole programmer for a long time. Now that I’m there, he has less job security. He’s less indispensable. That leads to tension. He isn’t thinking “Wow! FSK is helping me and reducing my workload!” He’s thinking “Uh oh! FSK really knows his stuff. I don’t have any leverage with my boss anymore.”

      Ironically, the huge financial institution was the least dysfunctional place I worked at, in the past few years. I didn’t notice any political backstabbing (although my contract did end).

  4. Couldn’t you form an informal union with your co-worker i.e. if even one of you gets fired, the other one promises to resign or object?

    When I was working in a small company, one co-worker deliberately didn’t tell me things he did know. A few months rolled by and I heard him talking about the things, he told me earlier he didn’t know about.

    He then angled to be made a team leader and bizarrely his team only consisted of me. The directors knew this guy was lazy and not a software developer and they promoted him just to keep him happy (or shut him up). For the project, I was doing 99% of the work. The work he was doing was basically already done and he just needed to configure it. He actually couldn’t write software at all. All he knew was mindlessly hacking lines of code and he couldn’t even do that properly as he didn’t understand C functions in any detail and wouldn’t look anything up.

    The directors were often overseas. So I had a team leader than wouldn’t actually fight my corner and actually see whether I got my proper allowance of contractual vacation days and try to push for a pay rise to compensate me for all the hard work I was doing.

    It was a recipe for disaster and I left. It was absurd I was working 10 – 15 hours a week more than anyone else in the office, but was paid the least.

    I can’t say enough how stupid this was as the company got millions of dollars as an advance for the work I doing. I was getting less than 1% (after tax) of the cash pile they were given. And then they would get even more when it was sold to their other clients! Very stupid.

    If these people actually implemented my pay rise on time and allowed me vacation time when I wanted and actually gave me time-off if I had to work at the weekend (as they promised!), then I wouldn’t have left. And pay should be proportional to the hours you work. It ain’t rocket science.

  5. >The vibe I get from my bosses is not “Wow! FSK really knows his stuff! We’re glad to
    >have him around!” It’s pretty clear they don’t respect me.

    You misunderstand your position. It is not enough the directors get all the profit from the company, they have to be seen as the clever ones as well.

    The manager is the clever one that does the brilliant design and architecture. The software developer is the stupid pleb.

    Only you know that you do clever stuff. Maybe the manager knows as well, but he isn’t going to say it out loud.

  6. >The vibe I get from my bosses is not “Wow! FSK really knows his stuff! We’re glad to
    >have him around!” It’s pretty clear they don’t respect me.

    It took the Black Death in England before the medieval peasants got respect from the landowners and Lords.

    Less competition for work meant the peasants could start negotiating for better conditions.

    That is why your clown managers farm out work to other countries and why they have the non-immigrant work visas.

    Why should we pay FSK a decent wage when we can get someone else for half the money?

  7. Seriously, don’t jump to another job until you have found a good job. Hint: Lousy companies have the highest turnover and so do the most hiring. Statistically that means the hiring companies are the worst companies and by chance the scumball companies will suck you up first.

    I have had low paid jobs in the past, hated being taken advantage of and moved to new jobs too quickly and so the pattern repeated again.

    Bide your time and only change job when you have done your research and found the best job you can get.

    • Are all of these comments by the same Anonymous Coward? I’m not sure, because this UK AC’s ISP gives him a non-static IP address.

      My strategy is “look for a new job while holding on to my current one”. I’m going to be more picky this time.

      That is an amusing selection bias. The worst employers are always hiring. Also, the same unemployable twits are always looking for a job. (Some people will say I’m an unemployable twit. I say that I have a hard time working for evil scum, which unfortunately covers most employers.)

      I shouldn’t have let them lowball me on salary. They offered me just enough that I would have lost my unemployment benefit, if I rejected it. Also, it was the end of November. I probably would have been stuck until January/February if I turned it down.

      Most job ads are for at least 50% more than my current salary. I’m making 20% less than my last job, where I was for 2 years without an increase. I definitely got lowballed.

      I am getting .NET experience, which is nice. However, it was easy to learn. I don’t understand why people demand specific language experience. They aren’t demanding 50 hour workweeks, which is nice. However, I can hold out for another job with reasonable hours.

      The two main owners are barely computer literate. They can’t tell that I’m doing well. I’m getting hostility from the other programmer, who was the sole programmer for a long time. He’s concerned that he’s dispensable, now that I’m there.

      Regarding “forming a union”, the other programmer is much more interested in CYA and holding onto his turf, than making a stand. There is no way he would get a lead programmer job anywhere other than here. From my point of view, there are plenty of other employers willing to disrespect me for a below-market salary.

      That is a problem. The other programmer isn’t going to say “Wow! FSK is awesome! He’s a great bargain!” He’s going to try to make me look inferior, so he protects his turf.

      For another example, I’ve been there 4 months, and they haven’t given me the production server password. That’s an insult. With only 2 programmers, I should be the backup for production support. The other programmer doesn’t want me to have the production server password, because then he’s replaceable.

      The bottom line is that I’ll do my best while I’m there. I’m looking for a new job. I’m placing myself back on the market. I’m going to be more picky this time.

      The last two times I was unemployed, I was only out of work for 2 months, so I shouldn’t be too concerned.

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