Normally, I don’t call out an scummy ad or interview by name. I saw a new low point for sleaziness, and decided to out one.
I didn’t waste time and money applying for this job. I don’t shame interviewers, because that could indirectly leak my identity.
A Craigslist ad led to Sumbittable. Here’s a copy of the ad, in case the poster takes it down.
I’m looking to fund and incubate a new startup. I have the idea, a half built product, and funding – but need a CEO-type person to lead the project.
The idea/product is in the email space. Familiarity with software development, search advertising, SEO, and PR is a plus.
However, what is most critical is passion, desire to learn, and an entrepreneurial spirit.
Here’s the deal: you will get a modest salary, space in my office, and equity in the startup. I will provide the funding (initial product buildout, offshore engineering hires, and marketing) and day-to-day guidance. I am looking for you to be the CEO.
FYI: there is a $3 application fee.
I’m an investor in the company Submittable and I’m told charging a nominal fee will result in a higher % of serious applicants.
Really? He’s charging me $3 to apply to his job? Is he weeding out “not serious applicants” or weeding out competent people?
You *NEVER* pay to apply for a job. That’s an important rule for workers with useful skills.
If someone’s asking you to pay them to apply for a job, it’s definitely a scam.
Also, he wants to use an offshore development team. That also shows he’s a clueless twit. For an Internet-based business, software is the key component to success. You aren’t going to get great software, when you outsource to an offshore development team.
Clueless twits think that it makes no difference who you hire to write software. All programmers are interchangeable cogs. Therefore, you might as well hire an offshore team, and minimize the cost per hour. If you aren’t going to manage your software correctly, you might as well minimize cost per hour and the rate you flush your money down the toilet.
I don’t see the value of using a 3rd party website to manage resume submissions. Is it that hard to set up a new E-Mail account for each job ad and read through the submissions? Is Submittable better than monster or Dice or Craigslist? Would anyone other than a sleazy employer ask job applicants to pay? In my experience, the most competent interviewers let you E-Mail them a resume, rather than making you jump through hoops and fill out forms on a 3rd party website.
For some interviews, I asked “How many resumes did you receive?” They answered “100-200″. Is it that hard to read through those? Do you really need to charge $3, to make sure that competent people don’t apply?
That is Submittable’s scammy business model. When you apply for a job or submit a manuscript, you do it through Submittable. Submittable charges a fee for each application. The excuse is “That weeds out people who aren’t serious.” Actually, that weeds out all the people who have enough self-respect to not pay $3 for a job application. That weeds out all the people who are smart enough to not be scammed.
Obviously, Submittable is a scam. Surprisingly, ycombinator invested in Submittable! They’ve jumped the shark. They should know better than to invest in such a sleazy startup.
There is too much money invested in junky web startups. I’m surprised at all the lame ideas. You might say “Start your own web business, FSK!” There’s a big difference between conning clueless VCs into giving you money, and bootstrapping a business.
I was really offended by that ad. He’s asking me to pay $3 to apply to a job? He’s routing it through his sleazy startup “Submittable”.
I’ve dealt with plenty of clueless people who waste my time. Some jerk wants to charge me for the privilege of wasting my time?
My blog has a good PageRank. Anyone else who searches for Submittable, wondering if it is a scam, should find my post. Hopefully, I can prevent other people from being scammed.
Here’s an interesting forum discussion. There’s an online magazine “The Rag” that also uses Submittable’s scammy service.