Prescription Change – Back To Seroquel

I convinced my psychiatrist to let me switch back to Seroquel (100mg/day) from Zoloft (25mg/day) and Risperdal (1mg/day). I’m glad I switched back.

It was hard convincing my psychiatrist to let me switch back. She wanted to put me on a higher dose of Risperdal. I had to say “Switch me back to Seroquel, or I’m going to stop taking the drugs completely.”

I only switched to Risperdal+Zoloft because that’s what they gave me in the hospital. I did relapse while taking Seroquel, but maybe 100mg/day wasn’t enough? Psychiatrists only want to prescribe the same as what you’re already taking. I wonder if there’s some newer drug with a similar effect? Seroquel is generic now. Usually, when a drug goes generic, the drug corporations change the chemistry a little, get a new patent, produce fake research showing it’s better, and then market it as a new drug.

Unfortunately, I need a prescription to get the drugs. What I’d really like to do is try a different drug for 2 months each to see which ones work and have no negative side-effects. However, my psychiatrist isn’t going to do that. If Seroquel worked for me, there must be another drug that also works?

The “Seroquel partially cures color blindness” side effect is back. To me, that’s a strong indication that the drug is helping me. Maybe Seroquel fills the role of a missing vitamin? Almost all the food we it is processed and not fresh, so it’s possible that a key vitamin is missing from modern diets. When I’m under stress, I need more of that “missing vitamin”? I wonder if, at a higher dose, it would completely cure my color blindness? Maybe my body uses its limited resources elsewhere, so it cuts corners on color vision and spends the tiny amount of that “missing vitamin” on other things? 100mg/day is considered a “low” dose. Since I did get hospitalized while taking 100mg/day Seroquel, maybe I need more?

Risperdal+Zoloft had horrible side-effects. At night, I was waking up every 1.5 hours. It was horrible. I put up with it for awhile, but it got to the point where I was starting to stop sleeping at all.

It also messed up my bowel movements. Fortunately, that’s back to normal now.

I feel like all my senses are back to normal now. My sense of taste and smell is a lot better. The Risperdal+Zoloft really dulled my senses.

Also, I was only able to concentrate at 50-80% of capacity. I feel that my ability to think has returned. One example is high scores at computer games. I’m doing a lot better. I also can tell the color blindness side-effect, in certain games that depend on color. I’m still getting stuck on level 7-1 of Q*Bert due to not being able to make out the colors.

I feel like I’m getting a good night’s sleep for the first time in 6 months. That’s the only negative of Seroquel, that I’m sleeping 9-11 hours a day. I feel good otherwise, so it doesn’t bother me. It is amazing that I couldn’t stand Risperdal+Zoloft, but Seroquel I actually like.

I’ve changed my belief from “All psychiatric drugs are harmful!” to “Most psychiatric drugs are harmful!” I have a hard time believing that Risperdal+Zoloft helps anyone, given the bad negative side-effects I had. However, if other people feel those drugs help them, they should take them. If you’re taking a drug that has horrible side-effects, you have to push back and refuse to take it, try a different drug, or fire your doctor and find a better one.

I asked “Can the hospital make a list of the drugs I’ve already tried and didn’t like? If I relapse, can they give me a different drug rather than going back to the ones I already tried and couldn’t stand the side-effects?” The answer was “No! The hospital wants to make a quick buck and get you out of there as soon as possible. They’re going to give you the strongest drugs they can, to eliminate your symptoms and make you mostly stable, even if you’re so messed up that you can’t do anything else.”

Let’s see if my blogging motivation returns, now that I switched from Risperdal+Zoloft back to Seroquel!

12 Responses to Prescription Change – Back To Seroquel

  1. Anonymous Coward May 2, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    I am not qualified to give advice but assuming you are 35 years old, then somehow you managed to live 33 years of your life without prescription medication.

    > To me, that’s a strong indication that the drug is helping me.

    Well it may be helping one area, but damaging you in another. Statins do lower blood cholesterol (think! What material surrounds all the cells of your body? Do you think cholesterol in your blood actually has a real purpose? Could the problem by glycosylation of cholesterol rather than cholesterol itself? Could the problem really be refined foods – bread, pasta etc.) but probably damage your body in a different area.

    Vitamins are molecules found in food that your body needs in small quantities for vital life processes – e.g. Vitamin C, B vitamins, beta-carotene (Vitamin A precusor) etc. I would hardly call a prescription drug a vitamin.

    • There are a couple of problems. First, my parents would panic and have me involuntarily hospitalized if I refused to take any drugs. Second, I tried refusing drugs for several years and it didn’t work. However, having been exposed to the drugs, I may now be partially addicted.

      I don’t notice any negative side-effects for the Seroquel. It is possible that mainstream medicine is so incompetent that a vitamin is misclassified as a drug. To me, the “partially cures color blindness” side-effect is amazing.

  2. Anonymous Coward May 2, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    > is so incompetent that a vitamin is misclassified as a drug.

    It is a long time since I studied life science, but I think the proper definition of a vitamin should be something that is absolutely needed for a human to live properly.

    As such I doubt Seroquel meets this definition. Modern humans have lived on this planet quite successfully for 195,000 years before Seroquel was invented.

    How did modern humans survive for 195,000 years before this drug was invented?

    Unless you are proposing you have some strange mutation that means you need this drug. And even if this is true, how did you survive for 95% of your life without this drug?

    You studied maths at university, not life science. Beware of playing guessing games.

    > , I may now be partially addicted.

    It is never to late to start doing the right thing.

    > . First, my parents would panic and have me involuntarily hospitalized

    Have you tried talking to them and explaining things? I guess you have. Maybe you could buy them a book that is about natural healing and how prescription drugs are bad. I’m sure you could find such a book.

    Dr Mercola ( http://www.mercola.com/ ) seems to talk some sense in other areas. Maybe you could search to see if he says anything on this topic.

    • Maybe it is present in trace amounts in processed food. Most people don’t need much, because they don’t use most of their brain. When I’m in a state of heightened alertness, I need more of it.

      I did survive, but with color blindness and reduced thinking ability. Once I was forced to think more due to the stress of dealing with criminally insane people, I started needing more.

      I’m certainly willing to believe that most doctors and scientists are incompetent. Most mainstream economists are incompetent when it comes to the Federal Reserve and “Taxation is theft!” Why can’t the medical and mental health industries be similarly incompetent? Most of their drugs are harmful, but by random luck, they came up with some that help?

      Are you saying that I’m unqualified to write about the Federal Reserve because I don’t have a degree in economics? For example, I know something that no medical researcher knows “100mg/day of Seroquel partially cures color blindness.” That’s an amazing conclusion. It would be nice to see a proper medical study on it. Similarly, I know “Taxation is theft! The Federal Reserve is one big price-fixing cartel!”, but every mainstream economist would ridicule that as stupid ideas.

      I noticed something interesting. Before, I was taking 100mg/day. My psychiatrist is “titrating” me up to 100mg/day. I’m only taking 50mg/day now. It’s partially cured my color blindness, but not as much as when I was taking 100mg/day. I wonder what would happen if I tried 200mg/day?

      Anyway, I don’t notice any negative side effects with Seroquel, unlike with every other drug I’ve tried. The partial color blindness cure is an amazing side-effect, and an indication that it is helping me.

  3. Anonymous Coward May 3, 2013 at 9:41 am

    You managed to complete an undergraduate degree without Seroquel.

    I can’t remember what you have said about your education, but you may even have completed a Masters degree without Seroquel.

    Just don’t assume things. It may have long-term deleterious effects that you will only notice after 5 – 10 years.

    Perhaps I am being a downer. I am just saying be careful.

    > I’m certainly willing to believe that most doctors and scientists are incompetent.

    You are most certainly correct in that regard.

    I’ve met otherwise competent dentists that still believe fluoride is good for you!

    Just look at the statins and cholesterol mess. I believe the research that said cholesterol levels higher than the average are harmful is based on data that was selectively obtained.

    And as regards academic research, journal publications are like wading in luke warm water. To get grants scientists have to publish multiple papers a year, which means they publish unoriginal papers instead of concentrating on producing less papers, but more original ones.

    • I’m carefully monitoring the side-effects. With the Risperdal+Zoloft, the side effects were horrible. With Seroquel, I notice no negative side-effects, and one positive side-effect (color blindness partial cure).

      There may be trace amounts of “Seroquel” present in most food. Due to my higher emotional awareness, I may now have a greater demand for “Seroquel” than most people. That’s why I was fine for so long without it. I wasn’t using most of my brain.

      I trust my own observations more than what a “scientist” would write in a fake research paper. For every drug I researched, there are lots of people saying it’s amazing and lots of people saying it’s horrible.

      • Coffee makes me feel better in the afternoon, but long term it makes my body my acidic and leaches minerals from me.

        Be careful – your seroquel may have both good and bad effects.

        • I am careful. However, I tried taking nothing for several years and kept relapsing. Seroquel is the only drug I’ve tried that I like.

          It certainly is possible that Seroquel has a good side-effect (partially cures color blindness) and a bad side-effect that I don’t notice. I’ve been getting blood tests for the diabetes potential side-effect, but have come clean so far.

  4. Anonymous Coward May 3, 2013 at 10:36 am

    I still inwardly laugh when a clown mentions cholesterol levels.

    Cholesterol makes up the membrane that surrounds every cell of your body.

    Cholesterol isn’t the problem. Damaged cholesterol is the problem.

  5. I’ve personally done a bit of looking in to the research on psychiatric medication and I’ve found that despite the fact that psychiatry is probably running on paradigms that have the flaws and inefficiencies of the of the broken medical establishment AND incorporates the dogmatic delusional way people think about how other people and society work. But despite this there are some valid observations that can be made based on theoretical neurochemistry. You can make some decent educated guess as to why something works based on its biochemical profile in terms of things like receptor affinities and metabolites. The problem is that any further analysis than some basic facts about a drug like it’s duration and what type of systems it effects based on the current use of a chemical or it’s category is usually flawed based on the personal opinions about things like ‘’natural health”, “psychiatric drugs hobble the brain”, or even just the view they use about what a “healthy mind” is. One example of these beliefs is the psychiatric industry’s fixation on the medical model of fixing illness making all standard writing on the subject assume that drugs are best used to improve “problems” by restoring a mind to an ideal state of balanced or normal. Unfortunately no one from any perspective seems to try to be looking at the human brain as simply a complex system without prejudices and to which nearly any general rule will have exceptions.

    • All I can say is my personal experience with the drugs. Lithium, risperdal, geodon, abilify, and zoloft were HORRIBLE. As far as I can tell, Seroquel has no negative side-effects. It does knock me right out and put me to sleep. At 50mg/day, the “partially cures color blindness” side-effect is less strong than with 100mg/day. I feel a little tired during the day, but not that much.

      (Actually, I have a slight fever now. I wonder if I’m partially allergic to Seroquel? Is it “neuroleptic malignant syndrome”? Is it withdrawal from the risperdal+zoloft?)

      A psychiatrist would say “Everyone’s body chemistry is different!”, but I have a hard time imagining that lithium, risperdal, etc. help anyone.

      However, nobody has had a good explanation for why I was fine for 30 years, and then got “sick” at age 30. I’m pretty sure it was the shock of discovering how really evil people operate, how they emotionally manipulate people to get what they want. Even though I’m aware of it, I’m still bothered when I deal with someone abusive.

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